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		<title>By: Recurring Decimals&#8230;.. &#187; New York Times gets it wrong (again!)</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2005/07/28/somini-sengupta-nyt-reporter-and-terrorist-apologist/comment-page-1/#comment-84460</link>
		<dc:creator>Recurring Decimals&#8230;.. &#187; New York Times gets it wrong (again!)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jul 2006 15:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] 2. Somini Sengupta has been previously fisked by Nitin Pai at The Acorn. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Acorn &#187; Terrorists attack Varanasi</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Acorn &#187; Terrorists attack Varanasi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Mar 2006 02:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Somini Sengupta of the New York Times does her journalistic scepticism thing. Not only where they &#8220;terrorist attacks&#8221; (her quotes) but they were only &#8216;apparently coordinated explosions&#8217; (here the quotes are mine).     Home&#160;&#124;&#160;Permalink&#160;&#124;&#160;Trackback&#160;&#124;&#160; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Somini Sengupta of the New York Times does her journalistic scepticism thing. Not only where they &#8220;terrorist attacks&#8221; (her quotes) but they were only &#8216;apparently coordinated explosions&#8217; (here the quotes are mine).     Home&nbsp;|&nbsp;Permalink&nbsp;|&nbsp;Trackback&nbsp;|&nbsp; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: RS</title>
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		<dc:creator>RS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Aug 2005 04:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Forget the BBCs and CNNs. What about Commie owned NDTV which gets invitation to Dawood&#039;s daughter&#039;s wedding and aired &quot;exclusive&quot; snaps of the occassion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forget the BBCs and CNNs. What about Commie owned NDTV which gets invitation to Dawood&#8217;s daughter&#8217;s wedding and aired &#8220;exclusive&#8221; snaps of the occassion.</p>
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		<title>By: Jatin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jatin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jul 2005 18:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>NYT is still jst a newspaper, watch BBC or CNN which actually reaches a lot more people, they mostly use the term &#039;gunmen&#039;. This is pretty common in every foreign media outlet, i don&#039;t think they are racist, but it seems like there is a built in racist bias, where anythin outside US or Europe can ever be deemed a terrorist attack outright unless it happens in Iraq against the americans or like the one in Bali which killed a lot many Australians.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>NYT is still jst a newspaper, watch BBC or CNN which actually reaches a lot more people, they mostly use the term &#8216;gunmen&#8217;. This is pretty common in every foreign media outlet, i don&#8217;t think they are racist, but it seems like there is a built in racist bias, where anythin outside US or Europe can ever be deemed a terrorist attack outright unless it happens in Iraq against the americans or like the one in Bali which killed a lot many Australians.</p>
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		<title>By: sv</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2005/07/28/somini-sengupta-nyt-reporter-and-terrorist-apologist/comment-page-1/#comment-39643</link>
		<dc:creator>sv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2005 19:08:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Atanu:  Hindu is the most anti-hindu newspaper.  Sometime back muslims murdered hindus in marad in kerala and when the then chief minister anthony took strong action against the criminals,  the hindu criticized the actions of the chief minister. Recently, hindu criticized manmohan singh for saying (the obvious) that nukes in the hands of pakistan poses security risk.  It&#039;s a pathetic anti-indian newspaper.  

N.Ram is a known communist/chinese sympathezier. On a visit to tibet, he paid glorious tribute to the chinese actions in Tibet -- no word on the many atrocities committed by chinese in tibet. 
Today, there is a news item in indian express on 5 hindu sheperds killed by having their throats slit by terrorists.  The express called these terrorists &#039;militants&#039; although it&#039;s a clear act of terrorism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Atanu:  Hindu is the most anti-hindu newspaper.  Sometime back muslims murdered hindus in marad in kerala and when the then chief minister anthony took strong action against the criminals,  the hindu criticized the actions of the chief minister. Recently, hindu criticized manmohan singh for saying (the obvious) that nukes in the hands of pakistan poses security risk.  It&#8217;s a pathetic anti-indian newspaper.  </p>
<p>N.Ram is a known communist/chinese sympathezier. On a visit to tibet, he paid glorious tribute to the chinese actions in Tibet &#8212; no word on the many atrocities committed by chinese in tibet.<br />
Today, there is a news item in indian express on 5 hindu sheperds killed by having their throats slit by terrorists.  The express called these terrorists &#8216;militants&#8217; although it&#8217;s a clear act of terrorism.</p>
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		<title>By: prashant Kothari</title>
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		<dc:creator>prashant Kothari</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2005 14:03:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great fisking, Nitin.  Ms Sengupta and her ilk need to be unmasked</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great fisking, Nitin.  Ms Sengupta and her ilk need to be unmasked</p>
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		<title>By: vijay</title>
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		<dc:creator>vijay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2005 13:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Expecting objectivity from Sengupta is perhaps asking for too much. While she may well have to toe the NYT editorial line on using the T word, she lacks a basic understanding of her country of birth. In one of her early reports she referred to Manmohan Singh as India&#039;s head of state. She merely carries on a hoary tradition begun by Barbara Crossette.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Expecting objectivity from Sengupta is perhaps asking for too much. While she may well have to toe the NYT editorial line on using the T word, she lacks a basic understanding of her country of birth. In one of her early reports she referred to Manmohan Singh as India&#8217;s head of state. She merely carries on a hoary tradition begun by Barbara Crossette.</p>
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		<title>By: Y V Nanda Kishore</title>
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		<dc:creator>Y V Nanda Kishore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2005 05:27:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Hindu (and its more virulent sister publication, Frontline), are run by card carrying communist N Ram. What do you expect? Btw, let&#039;s not blame Calcutta for the communist &#039;spirit&#039; - after all, CPM hardly wins any elections there, except when it&#039;s up against loonies like Mamata Banerjee.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Hindu (and its more virulent sister publication, Frontline), are run by card carrying communist N Ram. What do you expect? Btw, let&#8217;s not blame Calcutta for the communist &#8217;spirit&#8217; &#8211; after all, CPM hardly wins any elections there, except when it&#8217;s up against loonies like Mamata Banerjee.</p>
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		<title>By: Y V Nanda Kishore</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2005/07/28/somini-sengupta-nyt-reporter-and-terrorist-apologist/comment-page-1/#comment-39282</link>
		<dc:creator>Y V Nanda Kishore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jul 2005 05:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zia, yes, I&#039;m VERY real.

Even now, there is a refusal in the Western world to recognise that what is happening in Kashmir is the same thing that happened on 9/11. The only difference was in scale. If you don&#039;t agree, I present Exhibit A - the difference in coverage attached to the London and Sharm-Al-Sheikh bombings. When &#039;third world&#039; people die, it hardly registers a blimp. 

I guess I was somewhat out of line with the way I expressed this, and I certainly do not intend anyone any harm. But think about the fact that terrorists in Kashmir are killing innocent people with arms provided by Pakistan, a lot of which were acquired from the US, which knew fully well the kind of use they would be put to. A lot of the ongoing jihad started in Afghanistan, where the CIA fought alongside the &#039;Mujahideen&#039; and Pakistani radicals. Of course, America had no idea who they were dealing with! 

When it comes to terrorism in India, all we get is sermons and words like &#039;militancy&#039;, &#039;insurgency&#039;, &#039;rebels&#039; etc. Western double standards are not restricted to terrorism, though, witness the CNOOC-Unocal fiasco. These same people preach free trade to us? And want us to open up our retail, oil etc. sectors?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zia, yes, I&#8217;m VERY real.</p>
<p>Even now, there is a refusal in the Western world to recognise that what is happening in Kashmir is the same thing that happened on 9/11. The only difference was in scale. If you don&#8217;t agree, I present Exhibit A &#8211; the difference in coverage attached to the London and Sharm-Al-Sheikh bombings. When &#8216;third world&#8217; people die, it hardly registers a blimp. </p>
<p>I guess I was somewhat out of line with the way I expressed this, and I certainly do not intend anyone any harm. But think about the fact that terrorists in Kashmir are killing innocent people with arms provided by Pakistan, a lot of which were acquired from the US, which knew fully well the kind of use they would be put to. A lot of the ongoing jihad started in Afghanistan, where the CIA fought alongside the &#8216;Mujahideen&#8217; and Pakistani radicals. Of course, America had no idea who they were dealing with! </p>
<p>When it comes to terrorism in India, all we get is sermons and words like &#8216;militancy&#8217;, &#8216;insurgency&#8217;, &#8216;rebels&#8217; etc. Western double standards are not restricted to terrorism, though, witness the CNOOC-Unocal fiasco. These same people preach free trade to us? And want us to open up our retail, oil etc. sectors?</p>
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		<title>By: Atanu Dey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Atanu Dey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2005 23:57:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sv: &quot;Itâ€™s not quite different from coverage from indian newspapers like hindu. I have seen articles with similar tones or worse from hindu and other news papers.&quot; 

I totally agree. Shouldn&#039;t &quot;The Hindu&quot; be really called &quot;The Anti-Hindu&quot;? 

Nitin, as some others have pointed out, Somini Sengupta may not have two neurons to spare, but there is the editorial policy of NYT to consider. It is &quot;terrorism&quot; only if the target is US; otherwise it could be &quot;militants,&quot; &quot;insurgents,&quot; &quot;malcontents,&quot; or even &quot;freedom fighters.&quot; 

Some years ago I was disgusted enough to write a letter to NPR (National Public Radio) asking them why they use this policy. 

BTW, there is no need to insult Berkeley waitresses merely because a cretin was once a waitress in Berkeley.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sv: &#8220;Itâ€™s not quite different from coverage from indian newspapers like hindu. I have seen articles with similar tones or worse from hindu and other news papers.&#8221; </p>
<p>I totally agree. Shouldn&#8217;t &#8220;The Hindu&#8221; be really called &#8220;The Anti-Hindu&#8221;? </p>
<p>Nitin, as some others have pointed out, Somini Sengupta may not have two neurons to spare, but there is the editorial policy of NYT to consider. It is &#8220;terrorism&#8221; only if the target is US; otherwise it could be &#8220;militants,&#8221; &#8220;insurgents,&#8221; &#8220;malcontents,&#8221; or even &#8220;freedom fighters.&#8221; </p>
<p>Some years ago I was disgusted enough to write a letter to NPR (National Public Radio) asking them why they use this policy. </p>
<p>BTW, there is no need to insult Berkeley waitresses merely because a cretin was once a waitress in Berkeley.</p>
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		<title>By: Eswaran</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eswaran</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2005 19:35:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If this is an instance of political correctness, it doesn&#039;t apply to everybody equally. NY Times and Washington Post always refer to BJP as the &#039;Hindu nationalist&#039; or &#039;Hindu revivalist&#039; party and typically add some references to Ayodhya and Gujarat. Even newspapers like Hindu use strong words against the right wing. And one wonders why similar standards aren&#039;t applied to the other kind of bigotry.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If this is an instance of political correctness, it doesn&#8217;t apply to everybody equally. NY Times and Washington Post always refer to BJP as the &#8216;Hindu nationalist&#8217; or &#8216;Hindu revivalist&#8217; party and typically add some references to Ayodhya and Gujarat. Even newspapers like Hindu use strong words against the right wing. And one wonders why similar standards aren&#8217;t applied to the other kind of bigotry.</p>
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		<title>By: Kumar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kumar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2005 18:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nitin:

A very deft highlighting of Ms. Sengupta&#039;s (none-too-elegant) dancing around the word terrorist.  It&#039;s amusing that even those suspected of killing civilians are &#039;insurgents&#039;.  

This is a classic case of an editorial masquerading as reportage.  Ms. Sengupta uses the oldest technique--she simply uses those sources whose quotes she can fashion into an argument for her point of view.

To give Ms. Sengupta some credit I should note that she quotes some (anonymous) diplomats on the busy jihad factories of Pakistan.  However, she goes on to suggest that the General might not approve of what his errant subordinates are upto.  In classic CYA fashion, she merely notes in passing that Pakistan&#039;s critics tend to be skeptical of its bona-fides.  

After all, Great Leader can never be wrong;if only his evil advisers would listen to him ! Of course, if the General can&#039;t or won&#039;t rein in the jihadi terrorists, I doubt that American action or inaction will do anything to increase India&#039;s trust of the General and his minions.

I wouldn&#039;t put it down to Ms. Sengupta&#039;s lark as a cocktail waitress, however.  These hardworking folks tend to be quite sensible, compared to many of those in the reportorial classes, anyway.  

But lemmme see:  Calcutta-born. Berkeley education.  English and Development Studies Major....&#039;nuff said.  I&#039;d guess the source is a terminal political-correctness (shared by her bosses and much of the elite media in the West).

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nitin:</p>
<p>A very deft highlighting of Ms. Sengupta&#8217;s (none-too-elegant) dancing around the word terrorist.  It&#8217;s amusing that even those suspected of killing civilians are &#8216;insurgents&#8217;.  </p>
<p>This is a classic case of an editorial masquerading as reportage.  Ms. Sengupta uses the oldest technique&#8211;she simply uses those sources whose quotes she can fashion into an argument for her point of view.</p>
<p>To give Ms. Sengupta some credit I should note that she quotes some (anonymous) diplomats on the busy jihad factories of Pakistan.  However, she goes on to suggest that the General might not approve of what his errant subordinates are upto.  In classic CYA fashion, she merely notes in passing that Pakistan&#8217;s critics tend to be skeptical of its bona-fides.  </p>
<p>After all, Great Leader can never be wrong;if only his evil advisers would listen to him ! Of course, if the General can&#8217;t or won&#8217;t rein in the jihadi terrorists, I doubt that American action or inaction will do anything to increase India&#8217;s trust of the General and his minions.</p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t put it down to Ms. Sengupta&#8217;s lark as a cocktail waitress, however.  These hardworking folks tend to be quite sensible, compared to many of those in the reportorial classes, anyway.  </p>
<p>But lemmme see:  Calcutta-born. Berkeley education.  English and Development Studies Major&#8230;.&#8217;nuff said.  I&#8217;d guess the source is a terminal political-correctness (shared by her bosses and much of the elite media in the West).</p>
<p>Kumar</p>
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		<title>By: sv</title>
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		<dc:creator>sv</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s not quite different from coverage from indian newspapers like hindu. I have seen articles with similar tones or worse from hindu and other news papers. I remember the entire indian media falling head over heals during musharaff&#039;s visit to agra a few years back.  Which was the most nauseating thing I have ever seen considering the fact that musharaff is responsible for the mass murder of more than 800 indian soldiers during kargil.  Obviously, indian elite and intellectuals don&#039;t give a damn about the soldiers-- unarguably the best citizens of the country.  How do you expect foreigners to be sympathetic to your interests?  As they say, charity begins at home.  We should learn something from china here.  They always take a tough stand when it comes to their national intererests and expect others to toe their line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s not quite different from coverage from indian newspapers like hindu. I have seen articles with similar tones or worse from hindu and other news papers. I remember the entire indian media falling head over heals during musharaff&#8217;s visit to agra a few years back.  Which was the most nauseating thing I have ever seen considering the fact that musharaff is responsible for the mass murder of more than 800 indian soldiers during kargil.  Obviously, indian elite and intellectuals don&#8217;t give a damn about the soldiers&#8211; unarguably the best citizens of the country.  How do you expect foreigners to be sympathetic to your interests?  As they say, charity begins at home.  We should learn something from china here.  They always take a tough stand when it comes to their national intererests and expect others to toe their line.</p>
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		<title>By: gawker</title>
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		<dc:creator>gawker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:33:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But how is this different from the rest of the world media when they talk about terrorism in Kashmir? I never saw any news report where the Kashmiri terrorists were actually named as such. The world media always keeps a neutral tone. I don&#039;t think it is just a problem with this one reporter, it&#039;s with all world news media. And I think it is wishful thinking from us Indians to zero in on this one reporter just because she has an Indian background. Why should we expect her to use pro-Indian terminology just because of her Indian background? After all, the NYT is a part of world media.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But how is this different from the rest of the world media when they talk about terrorism in Kashmir? I never saw any news report where the Kashmiri terrorists were actually named as such. The world media always keeps a neutral tone. I don&#8217;t think it is just a problem with this one reporter, it&#8217;s with all world news media. And I think it is wishful thinking from us Indians to zero in on this one reporter just because she has an Indian background. Why should we expect her to use pro-Indian terminology just because of her Indian background? After all, the NYT is a part of world media.</p>
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		<title>By: Saket Vaidya</title>
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		<dc:creator>Saket Vaidya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2005 14:05:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Its not just this chick, its everyone who is crazy about being &#039;extra politically correct&#039; these days.

Even the British Establishment talks about &#039;bombers&#039; not terrorists</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Its not just this chick, its everyone who is crazy about being &#8216;extra politically correct&#8217; these days.</p>
<p>Even the British Establishment talks about &#8216;bombers&#8217; not terrorists</p>
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