Comments on: More burned than a train http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2007/02/19/more-burned-than-a-train/ The Education of an Opinionated Mind Sat, 20 Mar 2010 08:39:07 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: sudhir http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2007/02/19/more-burned-than-a-train/comment-page-1/#comment-96057 sudhir Mon, 19 Feb 2007 21:53:41 +0000 http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/?p=2299#comment-96057 Bala, I see your point. That is why I said I hope Delhi's peace talks would remain just talk. Any 'action' on Delhi's part would amount to concessions to Pak and a victory for blackmail. I'm seriously concerned with GoI's willingness to negotiate Siachen, Tawang etc under the UPA. Talk is cheap and there's no harm in talking for the sake of it. Pak has steadfastly refused to open its markets etc to us (the MFN status is another case in the point). They've kept the jihadist mad dogs in reserve and that serves as their blackmailing chip. Bala,

I see your point. That is why I said I hope Delhi’s peace talks would remain just talk. Any ‘action’ on Delhi’s part would amount to concessions to Pak and a victory for blackmail.

I’m seriously concerned with GoI’s willingness to negotiate Siachen, Tawang etc under the UPA. Talk is cheap and there’s no harm in talking for the sake of it. Pak has steadfastly refused to open its markets etc to us (the MFN status is another case in the point). They’ve kept the jihadist mad dogs in reserve and that serves as their blackmailing chip.

]]> By: S Jagadish http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2007/02/19/more-burned-than-a-train/comment-page-1/#comment-96050 S Jagadish Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:17:31 +0000 http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/?p=2299#comment-96050 Isn't this enough reason to <a href="http://jagadish.blogspot.com/2007/02/two-neros.html" rel="nofollow">sack both the modern-day Neros</a>? Does anyone have any stats on the number of train accidents and terrorist attacks since mid-2004? Isn’t this enough reason to sack both the modern-day Neros? Does anyone have any stats on the number of train accidents and terrorist attacks since mid-2004?

]]> By: Bala http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2007/02/19/more-burned-than-a-train/comment-page-1/#comment-96049 Bala Mon, 19 Feb 2007 18:17:03 +0000 http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/?p=2299#comment-96049 Sudhir, Just throwing a spanner in a spinning wheel can break it. Pakistan is in much sense, the best spanner that has been breaking Indian wheels. We are growing and progressing inspite of Pakistan but it has not been that easy. Pakistan suffers from a huge inferiority complex. So the net result, Pakistan is more than willing to play India’s Achilles heels. So Peace Progress is intended to minimize the loss due to Pakistan. The hope or objective is to make Indian economic dividend to Pakistan act as a deterrent. A good working relationship with Pakistan will benefit India - access to central Asia, good integration within SAARC. At the end of the day, we need to decide - which is a lesser evil - A Pakistan which is involved in peace talks (thereby reduces the loss that it can cause to India) or a Pakistan that is belligerent and let-loose. Americans rightly decided a wavering Musaaraf is better than Taliban-Pakistan, We need to make ours! --Bala Sudhir,

Just throwing a spanner in a spinning wheel can break it. Pakistan is in much sense, the best spanner that has been breaking Indian wheels. We are growing and progressing inspite of Pakistan but it has not been that easy. Pakistan suffers from a huge inferiority complex. So the net result, Pakistan is more than willing to play India’s Achilles heels. So Peace Progress is intended to minimize the loss due to Pakistan. The hope or objective is to make Indian economic dividend to Pakistan act as a deterrent. A good working relationship with Pakistan will benefit India – access to central Asia, good integration within SAARC. At the end of the day, we need to decide – which is a lesser evil – A Pakistan which is involved in peace talks (thereby reduces the loss that it can cause to India) or a Pakistan that is belligerent and let-loose. Americans rightly decided a wavering Musaaraf is better than Taliban-Pakistan, We need to make ours!

–Bala

]]> By: sudhir http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2007/02/19/more-burned-than-a-train/comment-page-1/#comment-96036 sudhir Mon, 19 Feb 2007 14:01:44 +0000 http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/?p=2299#comment-96036 I wonder what India gains from the piece process. I can quite see what Pak gains. Suppose, just suppose, New Delhi actully follows the priorities of the vast majority of India's people and especially its young people - and warm relations with na-Pak is way down their lists - and ignores Pak, will the skies fall? Why not just do it then? This Pak game of duplicity and deception has gone on for far too long, ain't it so? Pak will have one less fig leaf of cover beaides. Fact is we don't need pakistan, never did actually. Their situation today is dire and they need India - to hold their own country together in hatred against a common foe and for importing many commodities which are just too expensive to obtain in Pakistan. I hope Delhi's simbly playing a perfunctory talking game with pak while we focus on our economy and our military. Pretty soon, we'll be so far ahead of naPak, it won't matter what they think or say. I wonder what India gains from the piece process. I can quite see what Pak gains.
Suppose, just suppose, New Delhi actully follows the priorities of the vast majority of India’s people and especially its young people – and warm relations with na-Pak is way down their lists – and ignores Pak, will the skies fall? Why not just do it then? This Pak game of duplicity and deception has gone on for far too long, ain’t it so? Pak will have one less fig leaf of cover beaides. Fact is we don’t need pakistan, never did actually. Their situation today is dire and they need India – to hold their own country together in hatred against a common foe and for importing many commodities which are just too expensive to obtain in Pakistan.

I hope Delhi’s simbly playing a perfunctory talking game with pak while we focus on our economy and our military. Pretty soon, we’ll be so far ahead of naPak, it won’t matter what they think or say.

]]> By: Pankaj http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2007/02/19/more-burned-than-a-train/comment-page-1/#comment-96034 Pankaj Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:48:56 +0000 http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/?p=2299#comment-96034 Nitin, As the whole world homes in slowly to the paki double games, these sort of side shows are important for Terror Inc., owned and operated by pakistan. The paki establishment, the suave arm of terror inc., is already giving out advisories to indian govt. http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=81647 The delinking of the paki establishment with terror inc., expressed by the phrase: The "peace process" would not be derailed by such terror acts; is I think the greatest gift of this fraud upa govt. to the Indian people. Nitin,

As the whole world homes in slowly to the paki double games, these sort of side shows are important for Terror Inc., owned and operated by pakistan.

The paki establishment, the suave arm of terror inc., is already giving out advisories to indian govt. http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=81647

The delinking of the paki establishment with terror inc., expressed by the phrase: The “peace process” would not be derailed by such terror acts; is I think the greatest gift of this fraud upa govt. to the Indian people.

]]> By: Sriram http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2007/02/19/more-burned-than-a-train/comment-page-1/#comment-96033 Sriram Mon, 19 Feb 2007 13:17:51 +0000 http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/?p=2299#comment-96033 <i>It follows then, that the attack could have been carried out to put New Delhi on the diplomatic backfoot and cause it to publicly reiterate its commitment to the peace process. Many quarters would desire this, not least Gen Musharraf himself.</i> What you said seems to be right with fingers already being pointed at India http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=81647 Quoting from that, "It is the responsibility of the Indian authorities to provide security to the train inside Indian territory. We expect Indian authorities to punish the perpetrators." It follows then, that the attack could have been carried out to put New Delhi on the diplomatic backfoot and cause it to publicly reiterate its commitment to the peace process. Many quarters would desire this, not least Gen Musharraf himself.

What you said seems to be right with fingers already being pointed at India http://www.expressindia.com/fullstory.php?newsid=81647

Quoting from that,

“It is the responsibility of the Indian authorities to provide security to the train inside Indian territory. We expect Indian authorities to punish the perpetrators.”

]]> By: Nitin http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2007/02/19/more-burned-than-a-train/comment-page-1/#comment-96032 Nitin Mon, 19 Feb 2007 12:23:38 +0000 http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/?p=2299#comment-96032 Sriram, From a purely humanitarian point of view, I think the visa camps are a good idea. Real people were killed and hurt and helping out at this stage is not only good in itself, but good politics too. But yes...the problem of infiltration is very real. While even one infiltrator is one too many, I suppose the total number of visas issued won't be very large. Sriram,

From a purely humanitarian point of view, I think the visa camps are a good idea. Real people were killed and hurt and helping out at this stage is not only good in itself, but good politics too.

But yes…the problem of infiltration is very real. While even one infiltrator is one too many, I suppose the total number of visas issued won’t be very large.

]]> By: Sriram http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2007/02/19/more-burned-than-a-train/comment-page-1/#comment-96029 Sriram Mon, 19 Feb 2007 11:37:15 +0000 http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/?p=2299#comment-96029 While you advocate caution, the speed with which India set up a visa post in Pakistan to hand out visas to Pakistani officials and accident victims' kins simply baffles me. I wonder how many of these kins are going to overstay and become untraceable. While you advocate caution, the speed with which India set up a visa post in Pakistan to hand out visas to Pakistani officials and accident victims’ kins simply baffles me. I wonder how many of these kins are going to overstay and become untraceable.

]]> By: confused http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2007/02/19/more-burned-than-a-train/comment-page-1/#comment-96023 confused Mon, 19 Feb 2007 10:30:02 +0000 http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/?p=2299#comment-96023 Nitin, When I read Raja Mohan's latest column, my first inclination was to mail it you. But didn't bother since that guy is simply incorrigible. Glad you picked it up anyway. Raja Mohan certainly speaks for the establishment-is the P.M.O as dumb as it seems or is Raja Mohan nothing more than a useful contraption for floating balloons? Nitin,

When I read Raja Mohan’s latest column, my first inclination was to mail it you. But didn’t bother since that guy is simply incorrigible. Glad you picked it up anyway.

Raja Mohan certainly speaks for the establishment-is the P.M.O as dumb as it seems or is Raja Mohan nothing more than a useful contraption for floating balloons?

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