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		<title>By: Nitin</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2007/11/08/in-sum-make-development-the-key-electoral-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-111123</link>
		<dc:creator>Nitin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 08:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dilip---they are new to me.  Now you know the reason why this blog has the subtitle that it has.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dilip&#8212;they are new to me.  Now you know the reason why this blog has the subtitle that it has.</p>
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		<title>By: Dilip D</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2007/11/08/in-sum-make-development-the-key-electoral-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-111117</link>
		<dc:creator>Dilip D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Nov 2007 04:25:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nitin,

&lt;i&gt;I change my opinion when I come across new facts.&lt;/i&gt;

Hats off to you. That&#039;s more than can be said for many of the rest of us.

Thing is, these are not &quot;new&quot; facts. They have been known, or predicted, for at least two decades.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nitin,</p>
<p><i>I change my opinion when I come across new facts.</i></p>
<p>Hats off to you. That&#8217;s more than can be said for many of the rest of us.</p>
<p>Thing is, these are not &#8220;new&#8221; facts. They have been known, or predicted, for at least two decades.</p>
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		<title>By: Nitin</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2007/11/08/in-sum-make-development-the-key-electoral-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-111110</link>
		<dc:creator>Nitin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 23:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dilip

&lt;em&gt;It is good to see The Acorn — which one would usually associate with the pro-dam sentiment — finally understand this argument.&lt;/em&gt;

touché! 

I change my opinion when I come across new facts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dilip</p>
<p><em>It is good to see The Acorn — which one would usually associate with the pro-dam sentiment — finally understand this argument.</em></p>
<p>touché! </p>
<p>I change my opinion when I come across new facts.</p>
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		<title>By: Jai_Choorakkot</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2007/11/08/in-sum-make-development-the-key-electoral-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-111078</link>
		<dc:creator>Jai_Choorakkot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 10:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From what little I know of the NBA/SSP, reading and discussions with Gujju friends, *every single* political party in Gujarat is pro-dam and there is no specific anti-BJP/ anti-Modi potential to be extracted from the project per se. 

There may be nothing spectacularly different about how communal govts mismanage our water resources (vs. secular ones) either.

regards,
Jai</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From what little I know of the NBA/SSP, reading and discussions with Gujju friends, *every single* political party in Gujarat is pro-dam and there is no specific anti-BJP/ anti-Modi potential to be extracted from the project per se. </p>
<p>There may be nothing spectacularly different about how communal govts mismanage our water resources (vs. secular ones) either.</p>
<p>regards,<br />
Jai</p>
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		<title>By: Dilip D</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2007/11/08/in-sum-make-development-the-key-electoral-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-111065</link>
		<dc:creator>Dilip D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 06:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;… according to the Comptroller and Auditor General’s report, the state’s water authorities diverted water designated for “drought prone areas” to the urban areas of Gandhinagar. It is good to see Tehelka—whom one would usually associate with the anti-dam agitation—making these arguments&lt;/i&gt;

Actually the “anti-dam agitation” has made this point for years: that the state has no plans, no intention, to deliver water to the truly drought-prone areas.

To give just one example: As far back as 1992, the Morse Commission Report had this sentence: ““Despite the stated priority of delivery of drinking water, there were no plans available for review.”

There’s plenty more in that vein, and not just in Morse.

It is good to see The Acorn — which one would usually associate with the pro-dam sentiment — finally understand this argument.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>… according to the Comptroller and Auditor General’s report, the state’s water authorities diverted water designated for “drought prone areas” to the urban areas of Gandhinagar. It is good to see Tehelka—whom one would usually associate with the anti-dam agitation—making these arguments</i></p>
<p>Actually the “anti-dam agitation” has made this point for years: that the state has no plans, no intention, to deliver water to the truly drought-prone areas.</p>
<p>To give just one example: As far back as 1992, the Morse Commission Report had this sentence: ““Despite the stated priority of delivery of drinking water, there were no plans available for review.”</p>
<p>There’s plenty more in that vein, and not just in Morse.</p>
<p>It is good to see The Acorn — which one would usually associate with the pro-dam sentiment — finally understand this argument.</p>
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		<title>By: Jai_Choorakkot</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2007/11/08/in-sum-make-development-the-key-electoral-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-111064</link>
		<dc:creator>Jai_Choorakkot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:52:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Various data from this dissection can be used to prove that Gujarat is not doing any better than the rest of India by any yardstick except power generation -in fact &#039;its part of the national trend&#039; is one sustained, running  defence/ explanation and many figures compare almost equal.

I would say this blogger has undone the tehelka effect, but could have continued to ask, IMHO, on the basis of the very same data he presented, the BJP/Modi to justify their &#039;shining claims&#039;.

After all &#039;as vibrant as the rest of India&#039; isnt quite their poll plank.

Thanks,
Jai</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Various data from this dissection can be used to prove that Gujarat is not doing any better than the rest of India by any yardstick except power generation -in fact &#8216;its part of the national trend&#8217; is one sustained, running  defence/ explanation and many figures compare almost equal.</p>
<p>I would say this blogger has undone the tehelka effect, but could have continued to ask, IMHO, on the basis of the very same data he presented, the BJP/Modi to justify their &#8217;shining claims&#8217;.</p>
<p>After all &#8216;as vibrant as the rest of India&#8217; isnt quite their poll plank.</p>
<p>Thanks,<br />
Jai</p>
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		<title>By: Chandra</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2007/11/08/in-sum-make-development-the-key-electoral-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-110766</link>
		<dc:creator>Chandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>paradise.mine, don&#039;t even bring your creed here. Instead of talking of elephants behind curtains and visible toes, present &quot;your&quot; full facts - until then your agenda is questionable. May be you can make them up because you have already decide what the conclusions should be. 

What innocence until proven guilty - proof can made up because we already know the guilty. It always works until, one day, you are the perpetrated guilty party - then the bar has be raised pretty high. Like tehelka, plant a few evidences and draw the conclusions you pre-decided and with enough obfuscation may be people will believe your facts and conclusions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>paradise.mine, don&#8217;t even bring your creed here. Instead of talking of elephants behind curtains and visible toes, present &#8220;your&#8221; full facts &#8211; until then your agenda is questionable. May be you can make them up because you have already decide what the conclusions should be. </p>
<p>What innocence until proven guilty &#8211; proof can made up because we already know the guilty. It always works until, one day, you are the perpetrated guilty party &#8211; then the bar has be raised pretty high. Like tehelka, plant a few evidences and draw the conclusions you pre-decided and with enough obfuscation may be people will believe your facts and conclusions.</p>
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		<title>By: Blogger News Network / Gujarat Polls - Rural Innovators and Debate on Development</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2007/11/08/in-sum-make-development-the-key-electoral-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-110765</link>
		<dc:creator>Blogger News Network / Gujarat Polls - Rural Innovators and Debate on Development</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Modi and his model of development rather than focus on the past. Nitin recently ripped apart Tehelka&#8217;s lame attempt at drawing misleading conclusions, Offstumped has a hindi summary of Nitin&#8217;s pieces here. Much has been said about Modi&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Modi and his model of development rather than focus on the past. Nitin recently ripped apart Tehelka&#8217;s lame attempt at drawing misleading conclusions, Offstumped has a hindi summary of Nitin&#8217;s pieces here. Much has been said about Modi&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: &#187; The 65 year old widow inventor of Gujarat &#124; Offstumped</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2007/11/08/in-sum-make-development-the-key-electoral-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-110764</link>
		<dc:creator>&#187; The 65 year old widow inventor of Gujarat &#124; Offstumped</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 17:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Modi and his model of development rather than focus on the past. Nitin recently ripped apart Tehelka&#8217;s lame attempt at drawing misleading conclusions, Offstumped has a hindi summary of Nitin&#8217;s pieces here. Much has been said about Modi&#8217;s [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Modi and his model of development rather than focus on the past. Nitin recently ripped apart Tehelka&#8217;s lame attempt at drawing misleading conclusions, Offstumped has a hindi summary of Nitin&#8217;s pieces here. Much has been said about Modi&#8217;s [...]</p>
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		<title>By: paradise.mine</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2007/11/08/in-sum-make-development-the-key-electoral-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-110760</link>
		<dc:creator>paradise.mine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2007 15:29:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nitin,

Not telling the whole story does not mean its not factual, as you have claimed probably just to prove a doubter wrong. This contradicts your posts itself where you have had problems with the conclusions but not the figures mentioned. Its like there is an elephant behind a curtain and 2 people are showing only their side of its legs to claim which way the toe is.


Regarding about &quot;dim-followers&quot; and similar sentiments (from both sides on this blog and others), I say Good for you. Sardar khusss hoga, saabaasee dega. May there be more of your creed.....and mine (as has been so graciously wished).
Chandra, What you call facts, I call half-facts because from what I have seen, there is always an ulterior agenda however written.

Happy Diwali everyone!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nitin,</p>
<p>Not telling the whole story does not mean its not factual, as you have claimed probably just to prove a doubter wrong. This contradicts your posts itself where you have had problems with the conclusions but not the figures mentioned. Its like there is an elephant behind a curtain and 2 people are showing only their side of its legs to claim which way the toe is.</p>
<p>Regarding about &#8220;dim-followers&#8221; and similar sentiments (from both sides on this blog and others), I say Good for you. Sardar khusss hoga, saabaasee dega. May there be more of your creed&#8230;..and mine (as has been so graciously wished).<br />
Chandra, What you call facts, I call half-facts because from what I have seen, there is always an ulterior agenda however written.</p>
<p>Happy Diwali everyone!</p>
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		<title>By: amar</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2007/11/08/in-sum-make-development-the-key-electoral-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-110712</link>
		<dc:creator>amar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 20:32:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t mind being called dim-follower as long as I am praising such excellent (and timely!) deconstruction.

Good job Nitin,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t mind being called dim-follower as long as I am praising such excellent (and timely!) deconstruction.</p>
<p>Good job Nitin,</p>
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		<title>By: Chandra</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2007/11/08/in-sum-make-development-the-key-electoral-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-110693</link>
		<dc:creator>Chandra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 14:42:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;dim followers heaping praise on their hats.&quot;

paradise.mine, are you that super intellectual who doesn&#039;t need facts to make a case. Salam to your intellectual capabilities then. God knows we need more of you.

-a dim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;dim followers heaping praise on their hats.&#8221;</p>
<p>paradise.mine, are you that super intellectual who doesn&#8217;t need facts to make a case. Salam to your intellectual capabilities then. God knows we need more of you.</p>
<p>-a dim</p>
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		<title>By: Nitin</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2007/11/08/in-sum-make-development-the-key-electoral-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-110691</link>
		<dc:creator>Nitin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>paradise.mine

The difference is one bunch of twists and turns is factual, the other is not. I won&#039;t be surprised though that the inability to hold up dubious arguments will cause people to trot out equivalence. But there&#039;s no room for equivalence or ambivalence here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>paradise.mine</p>
<p>The difference is one bunch of twists and turns is factual, the other is not. I won&#8217;t be surprised though that the inability to hold up dubious arguments will cause people to trot out equivalence. But there&#8217;s no room for equivalence or ambivalence here.</p>
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		<title>By: paradise.mine</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2007/11/08/in-sum-make-development-the-key-electoral-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-110690</link>
		<dc:creator>paradise.mine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 13:24:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me like one bunch os twists and turns has been countered by another bunch of twists and turns, depending on what side each propagandist is supporting. Not to mention, dim followers heaping praise on their hats.

Truly election time...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me like one bunch os twists and turns has been countered by another bunch of twists and turns, depending on what side each propagandist is supporting. Not to mention, dim followers heaping praise on their hats.</p>
<p>Truly election time&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sriram</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2007/11/08/in-sum-make-development-the-key-electoral-issue/comment-page-1/#comment-110689</link>
		<dc:creator>Sriram</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2007 11:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I doff my hat. I hope this encourages others to take up similar data digging to puncture holes in such articles in the future. Also, why dont you include this in Pragati?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I doff my hat. I hope this encourages others to take up similar data digging to puncture holes in such articles in the future. Also, why dont you include this in Pragati?</p>
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