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		<title>By: Policing is a state subject &#124; The Acorn</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2008/05/22/sack-shivraj/comment-page-2/#comment-124664</link>
		<dc:creator>Policing is a state subject &#124; The Acorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 12:58:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] because it lacked a NIA. The proximate cause is a grand mismanagement of internal security under an incompetent home minister and an ineffective prime minister. The fundamental cause is that there has been a systematic [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Undercover Indian</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2008/05/22/sack-shivraj/comment-page-2/#comment-122421</link>
		<dc:creator>Undercover Indian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Sep 2008 14:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And he has done it again. This time he thinks that people are wrong in criticiszing him for his dress changes during Delhi balasts. This man just doesnt seem to understand irony.  When Bodies of indians were lying in parks and roads, this man was more concerned about appearing neat on TV. 

Can someone get him out of minstry pelase!! Or stop him from mouting those platidues about &quot;we must maintain calm...all the culprits will be caught&quot;... what a sissy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And he has done it again. This time he thinks that people are wrong in criticiszing him for his dress changes during Delhi balasts. This man just doesnt seem to understand irony.  When Bodies of indians were lying in parks and roads, this man was more concerned about appearing neat on TV. </p>
<p>Can someone get him out of minstry pelase!! Or stop him from mouting those platidues about &#8220;we must maintain calm&#8230;all the culprits will be caught&#8221;&#8230; what a sissy.</p>
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		<title>By: The Acorn &#187; Mr Patil&#8217;s zen-like mastery!</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2008/05/22/sack-shivraj/comment-page-2/#comment-121663</link>
		<dc:creator>The Acorn &#187; Mr Patil&#8217;s zen-like mastery!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Aug 2008 01:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] at Tehelka magazine they have a curious defence of Shivraj Patil, arguably the worst home minister in the worst government in Indian history. The article tells us that &#8220;sources close to the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] at Tehelka magazine they have a curious defence of Shivraj Patil, arguably the worst home minister in the worst government in Indian history. The article tells us that &#8220;sources close to the [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Banglore,Ahmedabad Serial Blasts: I am very Angry NOW! &#171; The Prudent Indian</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2008/05/22/sack-shivraj/comment-page-2/#comment-121085</link>
		<dc:creator>Banglore,Ahmedabad Serial Blasts: I am very Angry NOW! &#171; The Prudent Indian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Jul 2008 06:35:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are you doing with a person like Mr. Shivraj Patil who is long past his shelf life and rightly deserves to be fossilized? Is he still hiding under his desk post the latest blast in…which is that city again? Actually, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are you doing with a person like Mr. Shivraj Patil who is long past his shelf life and rightly deserves to be fossilized? Is he still hiding under his desk post the latest blast in…which is that city again? Actually, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Seriously Sandeep : Ahmedabad Blasts: Time to Take Back the Government</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2008/05/22/sack-shivraj/comment-page-2/#comment-121044</link>
		<dc:creator>Seriously Sandeep : Ahmedabad Blasts: Time to Take Back the Government</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Jul 2008 04:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] are you doing with a person like Mr. Shivraj Patil who is long past his shelf life and rightly deserves to be fossilized? Is he still hiding under his desk post the latest blast in&#8230;which is that city again? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] are you doing with a person like Mr. Shivraj Patil who is long past his shelf life and rightly deserves to be fossilized? Is he still hiding under his desk post the latest blast in&#8230;which is that city again? [...]</p>
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		<title>By: The Acorn &#187; Lotus Message</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2008/05/22/sack-shivraj/comment-page-2/#comment-120070</link>
		<dc:creator>The Acorn &#187; Lotus Message</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 15:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Vijay Vikram writes to inform that the June 2008 issue of Kamal Sandesh, the BJP&#8217;s house magazine has reprinted the op-ed that I wrote for Mail Today (based on this post). [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Vijay Vikram writes to inform that the June 2008 issue of Kamal Sandesh, the BJP&#8217;s house magazine has reprinted the op-ed that I wrote for Mail Today (based on this post). [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ravindra</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2008/05/22/sack-shivraj/comment-page-2/#comment-119580</link>
		<dc:creator>Ravindra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 04:22:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bunty (Comment no.56)

&quot;Sarabjit’s and Afzal Guru’s cases are similar in the sense that each is considered innocent in the other country. It is easy to see the parallel.&quot;

Lets get some facts straight. Sarabjit is an Indian who is sentenced to death in Pakistan. Afzal Guru is an Indian who is sentenced to death in India. 

Unless, of course, you believe that Kashmir is a part of Pakistan - which, we &quot;communalists&quot; do not believe so, and will not let it happen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bunty (Comment no.56)</p>
<p>&#8220;Sarabjit’s and Afzal Guru’s cases are similar in the sense that each is considered innocent in the other country. It is easy to see the parallel.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lets get some facts straight. Sarabjit is an Indian who is sentenced to death in Pakistan. Afzal Guru is an Indian who is sentenced to death in India. </p>
<p>Unless, of course, you believe that Kashmir is a part of Pakistan &#8211; which, we &#8220;communalists&#8221; do not believe so, and will not let it happen!</p>
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		<title>By: bunty</title>
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		<dc:creator>bunty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 12:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sarabjit&#039;s and Afzal Guru&#039;s cases are similar in the sense that each is considered innocent in the other country. It is easy to see the parallel. However you and most of the commentors that flock here are communalists, hence generally incapable of common sense.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sarabjit&#8217;s and Afzal Guru&#8217;s cases are similar in the sense that each is considered innocent in the other country. It is easy to see the parallel. However you and most of the commentors that flock here are communalists, hence generally incapable of common sense.</p>
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		<title>By: saatvik</title>
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		<dc:creator>saatvik</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 09:03:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>impressive quotes and arguments over a very simple logic
I too don&#039;t see how Patils&#039;s statement implies that he is considering them to be equivalent. Maybe he meant them to be quivalent. But the statement alone does not state that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>impressive quotes and arguments over a very simple logic<br />
I too don&#8217;t see how Patils&#8217;s statement implies that he is considering them to be equivalent. Maybe he meant them to be quivalent. But the statement alone does not state that.</p>
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		<title>By: Nilu</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2008/05/22/sack-shivraj/comment-page-2/#comment-119508</link>
		<dc:creator>Nilu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 12:23:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oldtimer,
I suggest you argue with Aristotle instead since you seem to disagree with him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oldtimer,<br />
I suggest you argue with Aristotle instead since you seem to disagree with him.</p>
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		<title>By: Oldtimer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oldtimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 08:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Jai, how do you do.

&quot;Probably reached the end of the road for logical arguments.&quot;

Problem is that it did NOT begin with any logical argument. Nilu muttered some mumbo-jumbo about ternary solutions in a quadruple space governed by quintuple parameters, but did not otherwise offer any logical argument.

Let us see if he will respond to the course correction I&#039;m attempting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Jai, how do you do.</p>
<p>&#8220;Probably reached the end of the road for logical arguments.&#8221;</p>
<p>Problem is that it did NOT begin with any logical argument. Nilu muttered some mumbo-jumbo about ternary solutions in a quadruple space governed by quintuple parameters, but did not otherwise offer any logical argument.</p>
<p>Let us see if he will respond to the course correction I&#8217;m attempting.</p>
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		<title>By: Oldtimer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oldtimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 08:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Nilu,

&quot;In other words, I don’t have an argument — I am just saying Nitin’s is invalid&quot;

You are wrong. To claim that Nitin&#039;s argument is invalid, is also an argument. Furthermore, you are not able to buttress this argument with solid reason, except repeat yourself ad nauseum. Let&#039;s see if you can proceed in a logical manner to prove your argument. You need to begin by answering the question I put to you above.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Nilu,</p>
<p>&#8220;In other words, I don’t have an argument — I am just saying Nitin’s is invalid&#8221;</p>
<p>You are wrong. To claim that Nitin&#8217;s argument is invalid, is also an argument. Furthermore, you are not able to buttress this argument with solid reason, except repeat yourself ad nauseum. Let&#8217;s see if you can proceed in a logical manner to prove your argument. You need to begin by answering the question I put to you above.</p>
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		<title>By: Oldtimer</title>
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		<dc:creator>Oldtimer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 08:16:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello Nilu,

&quot;My point is simple — Patil simply stated a fact.&quot;

I don&#039;t find your argument convincing. It is bereft of logic and reason. Home ministers don&#039;t state random &quot;facts&quot;. Patil has not said, for example, that &quot;cow eats grass and yields milk&quot;, which is also a fact. When the home minster states a &quot;fact&quot;, he has got to be making a point using that &quot;fact&quot;. What is the point Patil is making here?

Let us start with it and see how it leads or doesn&#039;t lead to a moral equivalence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Nilu,</p>
<p>&#8220;My point is simple — Patil simply stated a fact.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t find your argument convincing. It is bereft of logic and reason. Home ministers don&#8217;t state random &#8220;facts&#8221;. Patil has not said, for example, that &#8220;cow eats grass and yields milk&#8221;, which is also a fact. When the home minster states a &#8220;fact&#8221;, he has got to be making a point using that &#8220;fact&#8221;. What is the point Patil is making here?</p>
<p>Let us start with it and see how it leads or doesn&#8217;t lead to a moral equivalence.</p>
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		<title>By: Nilu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nilu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 06:46:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But then, I wanted to quote Aristotle.

And, where is that Atanu? Is he on his way to ask his refund?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But then, I wanted to quote Aristotle.</p>
<p>And, where is that Atanu? Is he on his way to ask his refund?</p>
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		<title>By: Raghavan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Raghavan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 06:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nilu,

Stop repeating yourself. You&#039;ve said what you wanted to say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nilu,</p>
<p>Stop repeating yourself. You&#8217;ve said what you wanted to say.</p>
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