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		<title>By: Vipin</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2008/12/25/no-war-ahead/comment-page-1/#comment-125276</link>
		<dc:creator>Vipin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 2009 15:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is PMs word a true gesture or a strategic ploy? Israel too sent out deceptive message before going through with the stricks. In fact they even played to have some sort of high profile cabinet meeting in evening on the day strickes too place. And pretty much everyone thought nothing would happen before the meeting. 

This is not say I want war, but only that if the Congrees party plans to strike, it will probably want to do it as close to the elections as possible</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is PMs word a true gesture or a strategic ploy? Israel too sent out deceptive message before going through with the stricks. In fact they even played to have some sort of high profile cabinet meeting in evening on the day strickes too place. And pretty much everyone thought nothing would happen before the meeting. </p>
<p>This is not say I want war, but only that if the Congrees party plans to strike, it will probably want to do it as close to the elections as possible</p>
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		<title>By: ArjunVV</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2008/12/25/no-war-ahead/comment-page-1/#comment-125213</link>
		<dc:creator>ArjunVV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 23:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More extreme terror is in store for India&#039;s aam janta in coming months. just see how bad it gets, it is beyond our imagination. And there will never be any war, we are not capable of it anymore let whatever ours PMs and Chiefs say.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More extreme terror is in store for India&#8217;s aam janta in coming months. just see how bad it gets, it is beyond our imagination. And there will never be any war, we are not capable of it anymore let whatever ours PMs and Chiefs say.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2008/12/25/no-war-ahead/comment-page-1/#comment-125194</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Dec 2008 09:07:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the PM&#039;s statement was very generalized, of the type that nobody in the world likes wars but everyone does end up fighting them when confronted with the possibility. 

In India&#039;s case, not only have we been confronted with possibilities but collectively backstabbed by the same ones who say they want to give peace an option. They say that today and attack tomorrow.

A war is waiting to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the PM&#8217;s statement was very generalized, of the type that nobody in the world likes wars but everyone does end up fighting them when confronted with the possibility. </p>
<p>In India&#8217;s case, not only have we been confronted with possibilities but collectively backstabbed by the same ones who say they want to give peace an option. They say that today and attack tomorrow.</p>
<p>A war is waiting to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Pragmatic Euphony &#187; Deflecting the attention</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pragmatic Euphony &#187; Deflecting the attention</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 08:43:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Indian Prime Minister has unequivocallly ruled out a military response. No movement of Indian troops to their forward positions has been reported so far. All the reports, [...]</description>
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		<title>By: A face saving retreat &#124; The Acorn</title>
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		<dc:creator>A face saving retreat &#124; The Acorn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 04:19:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] to prepare for an unlikely war with India is an excellent excuse to mask the Pakistani army&#8217;s total defeat&#8212;at the [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Sanjay</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2008/12/25/no-war-ahead/comment-page-1/#comment-125117</link>
		<dc:creator>Sanjay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 22:32:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A variety of news reports are showing signs of preparation by both countries for a military conflict:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jfIJch6-StI_qYLI050qb-O-5y6A&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;link&lt;/a&gt;

Again, I submit to you that Nitin is incorrect about his prediction of &quot;no war&quot;. He has wrongly misinterpreted Manmohan&#039;s comments. As I said in a previous post, it looks like we&#039;re going for a token strike, under an expectation brokered by the US. The goal of this is to politically salvage Congress&#039; political prospects so that they can claim some nominal superficial &#039;victory&#039;, while the powers-that-be in Pak can claim some kind of &#039;victory&#039; on their side, in some kind of bizarre Rashomonic theatre. Manmohan will say &#039;we taught Pak a lesson&#039;, while Zardari or Kayani will say &#039;we resisted the Hindooo aggressors&#039;. Uncle Sam will of course bolster each claim in front of its local domestic audience, while ensuring its &#039;War on Terror&#039; remains uninterrupted.

And AlQaeda/Lashkar will prepare to strike again. They are not refined theatre-going types, you see.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A variety of news reports are showing signs of preparation by both countries for a military conflict:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5jfIJch6-StI_qYLI050qb-O-5y6A" rel="nofollow">link</a></p>
<p>Again, I submit to you that Nitin is incorrect about his prediction of &#8220;no war&#8221;. He has wrongly misinterpreted Manmohan&#8217;s comments. As I said in a previous post, it looks like we&#8217;re going for a token strike, under an expectation brokered by the US. The goal of this is to politically salvage Congress&#8217; political prospects so that they can claim some nominal superficial &#8216;victory&#8217;, while the powers-that-be in Pak can claim some kind of &#8216;victory&#8217; on their side, in some kind of bizarre Rashomonic theatre. Manmohan will say &#8216;we taught Pak a lesson&#8217;, while Zardari or Kayani will say &#8216;we resisted the Hindooo aggressors&#8217;. Uncle Sam will of course bolster each claim in front of its local domestic audience, while ensuring its &#8216;War on Terror&#8217; remains uninterrupted.</p>
<p>And AlQaeda/Lashkar will prepare to strike again. They are not refined theatre-going types, you see.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 19:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rahul,

I agree, but not in name. If India responds in a like manner, it would be counter terrorism not terrorism. The intent of our attacks are not to harm civilians, they are to go after terrorists. As a long term strategy, India should place operatives in Pakistan and strategically attack the terrorist infrastructure and those ISI  personnell who support it. 

However, surgical strikes, if that is what India decides to do, should not target the LET. You do not want to risk nuclear war, over a bunch of empty school buildings. The LET is a simply an appendage of the Pakastiani milatry and so if attacks like Mumbhai are to be made prohibitively expensive India should attack prized military infrastructure. It is the Pakistani military that controls the on/off switch, and so they should ulitmately understand the consquences of allowing such attacks. 

Before attacking however, India should cut the supply of oil and water to Pakistan. The international community has so far shown that it will not whole heartedly support India, only offer condolences. But before India acts unilaterally, let it see if the world will allow us an embargo. If it does, this would send an expensive message to Pakistan (perhaps making the surgical strikes unecessary), and also weaken the enemy prior to a possible war.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rahul,</p>
<p>I agree, but not in name. If India responds in a like manner, it would be counter terrorism not terrorism. The intent of our attacks are not to harm civilians, they are to go after terrorists. As a long term strategy, India should place operatives in Pakistan and strategically attack the terrorist infrastructure and those ISI  personnell who support it. </p>
<p>However, surgical strikes, if that is what India decides to do, should not target the LET. You do not want to risk nuclear war, over a bunch of empty school buildings. The LET is a simply an appendage of the Pakastiani milatry and so if attacks like Mumbhai are to be made prohibitively expensive India should attack prized military infrastructure. It is the Pakistani military that controls the on/off switch, and so they should ulitmately understand the consquences of allowing such attacks. </p>
<p>Before attacking however, India should cut the supply of oil and water to Pakistan. The international community has so far shown that it will not whole heartedly support India, only offer condolences. But before India acts unilaterally, let it see if the world will allow us an embargo. If it does, this would send an expensive message to Pakistan (perhaps making the surgical strikes unecessary), and also weaken the enemy prior to a possible war.</p>
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		<title>By: Sanjay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanjay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 17:15:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nitin says there&#039;s &quot;No War Ahead&quot; and yet both countries are behaving like a military conflict is about to occur. I think Nitin has misinterpreted Manmohan&#039;s statements when he said, &quot;Nobody wants war&quot;

What he meant was that he had to launch a military strike, even if reluctantly, due to Pakistan&#039;s unwillingness to act against its terrorist groups.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nitin says there&#8217;s &#8220;No War Ahead&#8221; and yet both countries are behaving like a military conflict is about to occur. I think Nitin has misinterpreted Manmohan&#8217;s statements when he said, &#8220;Nobody wants war&#8221;</p>
<p>What he meant was that he had to launch a military strike, even if reluctantly, due to Pakistan&#8217;s unwillingness to act against its terrorist groups.</p>
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		<title>By: froginthewell</title>
		<link>http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/2008/12/25/no-war-ahead/comment-page-1/#comment-125088</link>
		<dc:creator>froginthewell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 16:28:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nitin : thanks, but does &quot;having control over escalation&quot; also mean that we will be able to avert a war they start? Say, if there is unprovoked firing on border or so?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nitin : thanks, but does &#8220;having control over escalation&#8221; also mean that we will be able to avert a war they start? Say, if there is unprovoked firing on border or so?</p>
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		<title>By: Rahul Batra</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rahul Batra</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 11:08:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They say, there are no winners in a war. What the heck, why should we be the only ones losing out then?? Or should we also resort to cross border terrorism (Malegaon type)?! Of course, I&#039;m anti extremism and am against either side supporting any extremist behavior. But hell, what justification/reason do the terrorists have for the Mumbai attack?? &#039;Cos someone&#039;s got to give us answers and be punishable for this!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They say, there are no winners in a war. What the heck, why should we be the only ones losing out then?? Or should we also resort to cross border terrorism (Malegaon type)?! Of course, I&#8217;m anti extremism and am against either side supporting any extremist behavior. But hell, what justification/reason do the terrorists have for the Mumbai attack?? &#8216;Cos someone&#8217;s got to give us answers and be punishable for this!</p>
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		<title>By: Sanjay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanjay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:56:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only the redrawing of borders can rectify the current raging disease infecting Pakistan and Afghanistan, which are both artificial states that have shown their inability to develop. India has proven its right to exist due to the fact that it doesn&#039;t send crazed suicide-attackers around the world, instead choosing a more benign if uneasy path of progress.

Maybe we should start organizing local separatist groups in Sindh to give Pak its share of terror pain for a change.
If they&#039;re not going to stop terrorizing us, then we have nothing to lose by starting terror against them. And we can give them more of it, because we&#039;re stronger than they are. I would rather buy off the cheaper Sindhis than buy off the expensive Europeans who prefer Islamic jihadis over their adversaries in Moscow anyway.
We need to fuel Sindhudesh movement with maximum expediency. Sindh can be used to ignite Baluchistan, just as Punjab was used to ignite J&amp;K.

This is the path we should pursue once BJP/nationalist forces get back into power at the Centre.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only the redrawing of borders can rectify the current raging disease infecting Pakistan and Afghanistan, which are both artificial states that have shown their inability to develop. India has proven its right to exist due to the fact that it doesn&#8217;t send crazed suicide-attackers around the world, instead choosing a more benign if uneasy path of progress.</p>
<p>Maybe we should start organizing local separatist groups in Sindh to give Pak its share of terror pain for a change.<br />
If they&#8217;re not going to stop terrorizing us, then we have nothing to lose by starting terror against them. And we can give them more of it, because we&#8217;re stronger than they are. I would rather buy off the cheaper Sindhis than buy off the expensive Europeans who prefer Islamic jihadis over their adversaries in Moscow anyway.<br />
We need to fuel Sindhudesh movement with maximum expediency. Sindh can be used to ignite Baluchistan, just as Punjab was used to ignite J&amp;K.</p>
<p>This is the path we should pursue once BJP/nationalist forces get back into power at the Centre.</p>
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		<title>By: Pragmatic Euphony &#187; Anything to precipitate a military crisis</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pragmatic Euphony &#187; Anything to precipitate a military crisis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:50:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Indian Prime Minister has already ruled out the military option. So are these military deployments in anticipation of a follow-up terrorist strike in India or a [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Bala</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 09:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sanjay,

Until, the time comes ...

Its better and more effective to work with other countries, to apply bans, sanctions on pakistan. Only &quot;lip-service&quot; is free in the world, so Indians must pay and buy other countries help in pushing pakistan. Indian economic success means Indians can afford to burn some cash - they must do it. 

India must build Afganistan as a counter-rival of Pakistan. India must work to make Taliban and Pak Army go at each-other. I think US is trying to do the very same.

I am sure there must be lots of covert things India can do, without sending in the Army.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sanjay,</p>
<p>Until, the time comes &#8230;</p>
<p>Its better and more effective to work with other countries, to apply bans, sanctions on pakistan. Only &#8220;lip-service&#8221; is free in the world, so Indians must pay and buy other countries help in pushing pakistan. Indian economic success means Indians can afford to burn some cash &#8211; they must do it. </p>
<p>India must build Afganistan as a counter-rival of Pakistan. India must work to make Taliban and Pak Army go at each-other. I think US is trying to do the very same.</p>
<p>I am sure there must be lots of covert things India can do, without sending in the Army.</p>
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		<title>By: Sanjay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sanjay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 07:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bala, if India cannot go to war against Pakistan, then what alternative do we have? Have you considered that Pakistan is already waging war on us, through terrorism? If they are already waging war on us, but we are unwilling to fight back, then what do we do? Just die? Do you not understand that continued terror attacks like Mumbai will eventually destroy everything we have? Chidambaram won&#039;t even put an NSG hub in Bangalore, where I&#039;m certain the next attacks would take place. Instead, Congress will just brush off such attacks by making brief noises of outrage and then go back to doing nothing.

Bala, how many more such attacks will we have to suffer before you realize that war is our only way out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bala, if India cannot go to war against Pakistan, then what alternative do we have? Have you considered that Pakistan is already waging war on us, through terrorism? If they are already waging war on us, but we are unwilling to fight back, then what do we do? Just die? Do you not understand that continued terror attacks like Mumbai will eventually destroy everything we have? Chidambaram won&#8217;t even put an NSG hub in Bangalore, where I&#8217;m certain the next attacks would take place. Instead, Congress will just brush off such attacks by making brief noises of outrage and then go back to doing nothing.</p>
<p>Bala, how many more such attacks will we have to suffer before you realize that war is our only way out?</p>
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		<title>By: Bala</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Dec 2008 06:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even if Pakistan gains from using Terrorists against us, If going to war with Pakistan means we lose more than Pakistan, then we must not go to war. It will be a very unpopular decision in India, but PM&#039;s job is not to score points but to ensure India progress. I am sure ppl will agree our PM is an intelligent man and knows his job well.

Perhaps, India wants to tarnish Pakistan&#039;s Image as much as possible, so that by the time India does actually attack Pakistan - the world only does what it does best --pay lipservice :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even if Pakistan gains from using Terrorists against us, If going to war with Pakistan means we lose more than Pakistan, then we must not go to war. It will be a very unpopular decision in India, but PM&#8217;s job is not to score points but to ensure India progress. I am sure ppl will agree our PM is an intelligent man and knows his job well.</p>
<p>Perhaps, India wants to tarnish Pakistan&#8217;s Image as much as possible, so that by the time India does actually attack Pakistan &#8211; the world only does what it does best &#8211;pay lipservice <img src='http://acorn.nationalinterest.in/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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